[schooltool] explicit step-guided document to install and populate SchoolToo

[Francois Bourassa]

>From: "Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be>
>Reply-To: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be
>To: "Francois Bourassa" <estrois at hotmail.com>
>CC: schooltool at schooltool.org
>Subject: Re: [schooltool] explicit step-guided document to install and 
>populate SchoolTool and CanDo

>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:38:31 +0200
>
>>Where can I find explicit step-guided document(s) to install and populate
>>SchoolTool/CanDo?

>
>We shall try to help you.

Thanks for your SchoolTool works.

>>
>>If it doesn't exist, I'm willing to document it for a Dapper server and 
>>and
>>Edgy server.
>
>thanks for this proposal

I worked on a guide, here is the short table of contents.

=== Table of contents: Level 1 ===

0- Scope managment.
1- Preparation.
2- Installing Ubuntu LAMP server.
3- Installing the SchoolTool suite.
4- Populating SchoolTool with data.
5- Administering SchoolTool.
6- Re-scoping school managment.
7- Specs.
8- Goodies.
9- References.

The actual version is indexed to three level table of contents. Example:

4- Populating SchoolTool with data.
...
4.2 Populating options.
4.2.1 Entering data by hand

It's in plain text, black and white, with no images yet, a draft doc.

gedit document stats:
lines      436
Words     1517
Charsns   8394
Charsws  11238
Bytes    11240

I tought of circulating it as soon as I'll get done integrating infos from 
my past websearches.

There will be space for people to chip in and revise.

>>
>>I feel that I'm doing too much googling to get information together.
>
>you nonetheless have found the correct info (see hereunder)
>

I ought to use tools like Beagle and other search tools. I'ts on my  to-do 
list.

>>==== What I have managed yet ====
>>
>>Somehow, on an edubuntu dapper client, I managed to type: sudo apt-get
>>install schooltool and after scipts completed, opended it (Schooltool v
>>0.10) in localhost:7080 where I created ten people, a course, a timetable
>>and four terms.
>
>at least you can test the basis. :-)
>

It installed on a client with a single command, that's great!
Tinkering with it was the next logical step after trying the web demos, 
done.
I'm now at designing my implementation document.

>>An attempt to import people's logins, names and passwords in 
>>comma-separated
>>format from a text file worked partially.
>
>could you be more precise and give us the problem you have, and
>preferably the files that you used as examples). With this we will be
>able to test ourselves and report more precisely some comments.

Problem solved, I had a comma between a person's first and last name,
causing lastname to become the password.

Person's csv import format:
username, firstname lastname, password

>
>>In the installation instructions:
>>
>>I have a hard time figuring which commands are for server or client, 
>>stable
>>or development, breezy or dapper, schooltool or schoolbell, version 0.10,
>>or 0.11, in which folder things go...
>
>OK

I feel less comfortable as a newcomer to ask volunteer veterans for basic 
things.
I'm more comfortable now that a few answers came in on the list, thanks.

>
>We'll try to be more precise. (at least, as the person who translated
>the documents to French and tested them, I'll try to be).
>>
>>ref:
>>http://www.schooltool.org/st-products/schooltool-2006/schooltool-2006-alpha2
>>(yes, we're at alpha 3 now)
>>and:
>>http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/
>>

I didn't want to point these two guides, I found Schooltool sites to be more 
variation specific than most of what I found elswere on the net.

>>====
>>
>>I'd find pedagogical to freeze one solid install and populate document on
>>Dapper and Edgy for average-coder but good technicians like me to learn
>>from.
>
>I do not understand this sentence. Could you please reformulate it ?

I felt that advanced user and technical help had to be found in the 
programmer and developer spaces.

So i'm typing a document that covers preparation, installation, data 
aqusition and managment of SchoolTool based on the possible integration in 
our school.

>
>THanks you for joigning and helping with schooltool.
>
>Nicolas
>
>PS could you present you a little : where do you work, which kind of

My name is François Bourassa, I'm a 40 some years young caucasian male 
human.
I'm currently a freelance computer generalist comfortable on using Mac, 
Windows, Linux and Unix.
I live in Chisasibi, Québec, Candada, a Cree aboriganal nation located on a 
reserve at 53.817, -78.983

>school, which level ... ? This could help us also with the definition of 
>the use cases.

I have a well described text of the school's needs but the web doesn't 
appear the right place to post it.

SchoolToll will fill what the present system lacks.

User and group permission based attendance data protection.
Electronic calendars, never before seen here.
Databased curriculum tracking, another first.

Ubuntu server, thin clients and tools will fill more lacks:

Quick and frequent parent-student-teacher communications.
More computer screens and less photocopying.
Content managment.

And ... a freedom breach in proprietary software servitudes.

François

PS: Our school isn't bad at all, I worked there and my daughter still 
attends it, it just deserves a better software scene.

>--

>Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be

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